Why whenever I bring up extremists Muslims do atheists bring up the Crusades, the Inquisition, and Timothy McVeigh?
When I was talking about Muslims killing 3000 people on 9/11 a liberal brought up the Crusades, which happened hundreds of years ago, as some sort of refutation of what happened on 9/11.
When I bring up Muslims terrorists I always hear “But what about Timothy McVeigh?” as if though that one person totally balances out the millions upon millions of terrorists that there are in Islam.
I am looking at the event going on in Afghanistan right now in response to the Quran burning by the Florida pastor in the USA. When I bring this up liberals bring up the Salem witch trials, I am not sure why or how they’re relevant.
Why when liberals/atheists are defending Muslim terrorists do they always bring up things that happened many decades if not centuries ago at the hands of Christians? It’s like me trying to disparage all Egyptians because of the things they did to the Jews thousands of years ago. It’s just about as relevant.
Is there anything Christians, Jews, or Hindus have done on the order of 9/11 in the past 5 years? 10 years? 25 years? 50 years?
BTW- I am not a Christian, Jew, Hundu, Buddhist or anything. I can just see Islam for what it is.
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Most Muslims are not educated in their own religion. Most atheists are not educated in any way. Those who actually have something to say are the only one you should listen to
(flings badger booger)
do liberals and atheists always defend terrorists?? this is confusing to me. Im sure your claim is not based on any real fact.
That’s not a correct generalization about liberals or atheists.
Muslims didn’t blow the WTC, terrorists did. Terrorism in Peru killed 30,000 and nobody in your neighborhood cares. When Hitler killed millions who do we have to blame? The Lutherans?
Where the hell do you hang out?
I think you are leaving something out, like the presentation of your statements and why such responses would be apropos.
Okay, in the Arab world people say that the 100,000 people in Iraq were killed because believed Bush told him to. You may disagree but perspective is everything. Try to think outside of your little hole.
Because christians are being hypocrites. And I rarely see a problem with being a hypocrite they do. It says in the Bible. Plus I never brought those up. I just brought up the Dark Ages, anti-semetism, and support of Hitler. Pope Pius glorified Fascism and Nazism.
history helps understand everything
I’m a liberal and atheist I know how to argue with these people.
When they do that you say “Tu Quoque (you too) logical fallacy, the actions of others are irrelevant to the misdeeds of one”
it’s a feeble attempt to downgrade and/or justify terrorist acts.
2 Wrights make an airplane…
3 rights make a left…
BUT…
2 wrongs will NEVER make a right!
Most people think the crusades are a thing of the past— over forever. But they are wrong. Preparations are being made for a final crusade, and it will be the bloodiest of all!
The Crusades were a series of Roman Catholic “holy” wars to wrest control of the Holy Land from Muslims. They produced some of the bloodiest battles in history.
Did you ever wonder how the Catholics reconcile that “holy” slaughter with the Bible, which states, “Thou shalt not kill”? Or how they can read the Sermon on the Mount and still lead the religious world in spilling rivers of blood?
They are called the Christian Crusades. That label itself is a deception. They were primarily Catholic Crusades. Other Christian religions have their problems, but let’s not blame them for what the Catholics did—and will do. Some background will help us understand.
Pope Urban II
In a.d. 622, Catholics fought and were defeated in a crusade against the Persians and the Jews. Some 60,000 Catholics were killed, and 35,000 enslaved. The fall of Jerusalem left the Catholic world shocked and mourning.
This war left Catholics bitter against the Jews for the role they played in the war. Much anti-Semitism began because of it.
Some historians consider this the First Crusade. But the Crusades we best remember came later, beginning in the 11th century.
Pope Urban ii unleashed a savage Catholic army and started these later Crusades. This “righteous” army Marched 3,000 miles to conquer the Holy Land.
Here is an excerpt from the book Crusades, by Terry Jones and Alan Ereira, which became a bbc television series (emphasis mine here and throughout): “By summoning an army under the banner of the Cross, the pope was extending the church’s mantle over all Christendom. This was the idea at the very heart of the revolutionary papacy; in place of separate local churches at the center of discreet communities, there was to be one overarching church, ruled by one overarching pope. The Crusade was to be its expression and its instrument.”
They state that this thinking was at the heart of the papacy. The popes wanted to rule any church called Christian. Through the Holy Roman Empire, they also tried repeatedly to rule the entire world. They have succeeded six times and are about to succeed again, for the last time, according to Bible prophecy. (Write for our free booklet Germany and the Holy Roman Empire.)
The Protestant churches are prophesied to be brought back into the Catholic Church (Isa. 47). Mostly this will be done through bloodshed. Remember, this wish to rule all Christianity is at “the very heart of the revolutionary papacy.” That means this philosophy has motivated them for nearly 2,000 years. And they still believe violent and bloody crusades are righteous. Have they ever truly repented of this condemning history? The answer is no. The best they have managed is some recent vague apologies.
History proves the Catholic Church to be one of the most militant institutions ever created. They do not believe in a democratic philosophy. They have often “converted” people by the sword. And yet, this world seems unwilling to hold them accountable for their war crimes.
Modern historians have shown how closely they worked with the Nazis. It was through the Catholic Church that most of the leading Nazis escaped after World War ii. We have shown in past articles how well documented that history is. No one should doubt it. (Read The Unholy Trinity by Mark Aarons and John Loftus, available at bookstores.)
And doesn’t that crime reveal that the Catholics were deeply involved with the Nazi war machine?
This subject is too important to let our emotions stand in the way, because the worst is yet to come!
The last crusade will be the supreme inquisition of all history. It is time we understood the bloody history of the Crusades and let it be a warning!
The world seems almost unaware of these monstrous crimes.
Why would an atheist defend religion inspired terrorism?