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@Velayasha : Same as if I told you I killed Santa The burden of proof would be ME not YOU. To prove it I would have to produce a body (1st and foremost), then videos, photos, DNA. There is no need for you to affirm the negative. So by your line of thinking, If I said I killed Santa, and provided no proof of it, you would be OBLIGATED to believe me seeing as how you cannot prove otherwise.
@Velayasha : And stop putting fucking words in my mouth. I never said I know the “real story”. I said was the official story doesn’t add up. The burden of proof is on those making this outrageous claim. If they brought this in front of a jury and had to prove they killed UBL on May 1 with no witnesses, no BODY, no DNA, no fingerprints, no photos, no videos, no 3rd party confirmation and a story that changed every 30 seconds since it broke, they would LOSE!
@Velayasha Look bitch. Go away. You are seriously a lost cause. You have not successfully argued ONE single point that I’ve made. All you have done is put words in my mouth. It’s really no use talking to somebody whose debating extent is a yo mama joke (wow that’s clever). You have been getting owned the whole time here, I can’t understand why you come back for more. So my advice to you is stick to doing what you do best, sucking dick and acting stupid.
And the next time you call someone a “stupid whore”, it should remind you of Mother’s Day. YOUR mother.that is. Shame on you for letting her walk the streets like that.
Yeah, you’re right. I never heard of Ghandi in my life until you brought him up. I was too busy writing a cover up for the American public on UBL. Our country would be much more educated if we let people like you, Art Bell, Tex Marrs, and Glenn Beck teach us. After all, you have the “real” story. Everyone else is wrong. Far be it from you to be a narcissistic ass who has to be above everyone. I hope you can actually PROVE something and look like less of the asshole that you are.
@Velayasha “An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation. Nor does truth become error because nobody sees it.” -Ghandi. I’d ask you to think about what that means but you probably never had an actual thought in your life; just a continuous stream of brain farts. You probably don’t even know who Ghandi is you dumb cunt. But I guess he was a “conspiracy wacko” too. Find me the name of UBL’s sister or shut the fuck up. You are in way over your head. Class dismissed
@Velayasha And fyi. I don’t think the moon landing was a hoax. Bc we had geological evidence. Evidence examined by scientists of the world over. We also had video of it happening. And photos. And thousands of people at NASA directing it. And hundreds of other documented FACTS! What do we have in the UBL raid? NOTHING. Not one spec of verifiable evidence. No body. No Witnesses. No footage. Only the word of a handful of corrupt, professional liars who cannot even get their story straight.
@Velayasha I never said anything about nurses. Or welfare. Or the moon landing. All YOUR words, in a pathetic attempt to deflect valid, blatant, documented lies and discrepancies. You wan’t to debate? Start by addressing any one of those valid points from documented news articles like the NY times. You are making your self look like an asshole. Don’t try to marginalize thinking people by calling them conspiracy nuts. Especially when they are basing claims on solid ground.
@Velayasha : I’m not a conspiracy nutcase. I’m a patriot. Real patriots ask questions. I’m also not in the custom of lying and fabricating stories. You can’t debate me in any rational context. How bout you account for any of those news articles and discrepancies. How about ONE? If you would do that you would actually have something substantial to say, instead of ad hominem attacks and childish assertions. And don’t put words in my mouth you stupid whore. I never claimed to know the “real truth”
I wouldn’t care if you worked in the field of molecular cheese balls. You’re still a conspiracy nutcase. You probably believe the Moon landing was faked too. And for someone who claims to be smart, you should know that nurses don’t qualify for welfare assistance. People who think they know “the real story”, [you] are always red flags and should be taken with a grain of salt.
@Velayasha When you’re done with that, check out the ORIGINAL AP story of the UBL death on May 1st 2011. The story claims that he was killed by a drone attack on April 23, 2011. Getting the picture yet? Hopefully when you start to come out of your coma, you will want to know how these scams happen. I can answer that for you. Take your mentality, multiply it by 300 million and that = The American public. A lie is a lie. Nothing political about that
@Velayasha When you are done with that article, read the NY times article regarding the DNA test. PR spokesperson claims NOBODY at the hospital has any record of UBL’s sister ever being a patient at Mass Gen Hospital, yet alone giving her DNA to the Feds. They dont even know her NAME. Nobody does! When your done, go through the online archives at the Boston Globe and see if they published one word of UBL’s sister being in Boston. Seems like a pretty big story to me…….nothing there
@Velayasha Maybe if UBL wanted to make videos he would put them on youtube. Instead of leaving them half way around the world in caves for the Feds to find, edit, screen, then show you. Get the fuck out of here! If I was 8 yrs old, I would believe that. Maybe you should watch a little less tv, and read a little more history. Start with the Washington Post where they ran a story where the CIA claimed to make fake tapes of Bin Laden talking about having sex with kids.
@Velayasha Oh Jesus Christ you must be shrooming? What tv show are you talking about where Bin Laden got on camera and claimed responsibility for 911. You are talking about the “confession tape” correct? You know how that tape came to see the light of day. The Pentagon recovered it from a cave in Afghanistan. Or so they say. True story. Same as the last 5 that came from the compound; all scrubed of audio, none of them time stamped. including one of the back of some guy’s head.
@hejcoze : That is so funny! Why do some people think that the burial at sea was in compliance with Islamic tradition (which, CLEARLY, a month later you KNOW that Muslims aren’t buried this way)? And the other people think it was an act of blatant disrespect? The same action…..yet completely opposite responses. That is classic misdirection. Same goes for the 10 different, contradicting stories that came out in the same amount of days. Any luck finding out the name of UBL’s sister from Boston?
dude are you serious??? did bin laden give a nice respectful burial for the 3 thousand plus people that died on 911??? nope…he couldnt give 2 shits about what happend…if the enemy is fighting dirty,.,and we are fighting clean…then forget it…the war is lost…sometimes you gotta lower yourself to thier level and take care of buisness..they hate us..they behead us while alive and kicking…its time the usa starts doing to them what they do to us…then and only then..will they fear us…
@Velayasha truthers don’t hate bush. they just want to know the truth. if wanting to know the truth equates to hating bush, then that tells me all i need to know about bush. don’t compare birthers with truthers. the birther movement is purely political while the truther movement is based on us being skeptical of the official government reports.
I don’t have blind faith in our govt., but to believe this is all some conspiracy would mean Bush, Cheney/ and Bin Laden colluded on 9/11. One has to believe Bush ended the lives of 3000 of his own countrymen and slept like a baby after doing it. You also have to believe that Bin Laden was mentally crazy and just liked copping to mass murder. In the age of 24/7 news cycle and internet, I doubt Obama would be dumb enough to fake Bin Laden’s death. Or want to.
All I have to say is there are Birthers, and there are 9/11 Truthers. One group hates Obama. The other hates Bush. But you 2 aren’t so different from each other. You’re both conspiracy nuts. Even if I was to take as the gospel truth everything you’re saying, one thing would still bother me: What possible motive could Bin Laden have to purposely lie on TV and say he masterminded 9/11….if he didn’t do it!? Especially when it led to more “infidel” occupation of Islamic lands?
@Velayasha : So yeah, when the needle begins to break on the bullshit-o-meter, people get suspicious. In UBL’s case, he was such a despised figure, that nobody gives a damn that what type of fable they are being told. Just like when the US fingered him as a suspect. Nobody gave a damn that there was evidence, they just felt secure that they could put a face to a crime. Happens all the time; look up West Memphis 3 if you wan’t a glimpse into the American psyche when it comes to justice.
@Velayasha : No once again I’m not against military secrecy. What I am against are false flag inducing PR stunts that result in innocent people being put in harms way, here and abroad, to advance the political agenda of a handful of corrupt bureaucrats. Gulf of Tonkin, Guatamala, Iraq…..what do they have in common? All predicated on fairytales that were 10% truth 90% lies that resulted in catastrophic and unnecessary loss of life.
For the sake of argument, let’s say you’re right and we’re not being told the whole truth. I think most people are like me. We don’t trust the government on many things. They still deny Area 51, as if we’re stupid. They still want us to think Lee Harvey Oswald did it. In the case of Bin Laden, we don’t give a damn if they told us he slipped on a bananna peel, into the path of a falling grand piano. He’s fucking dead. If he really was shot in the face, that’s even better.
Since Americans were tax paying citizens in the 1940s, I suppose your average Joe should have been told the coordinates of our troops in Okinawa and Dresden. Nevermind compromising our troops’ lives and the risk of losing the war to the Nazis and Imperial Japan. You need to know because you pay taxes! Why have any military secrets at all?
Al Queda, while not as strong, is just as evil as the Nazis were. Loose lips sink USS Coles. Is that what you want?
this is not a news, its a public racism, crying of a man, still can’t move on after the 9/11.
@Velayasha : Same as if I told you I killed Santa The burden of proof would be ME not YOU. To prove it I would have to produce a body (1st and foremost), then videos, photos, DNA. There is no need for you to affirm the negative. So by your line of thinking, If I said I killed Santa, and provided no proof of it, you would be OBLIGATED to believe me seeing as how you cannot prove otherwise.
@Velayasha : And stop putting fucking words in my mouth. I never said I know the “real story”. I said was the official story doesn’t add up. The burden of proof is on those making this outrageous claim. If they brought this in front of a jury and had to prove they killed UBL on May 1 with no witnesses, no BODY, no DNA, no fingerprints, no photos, no videos, no 3rd party confirmation and a story that changed every 30 seconds since it broke, they would LOSE!
@Velayasha Look bitch. Go away. You are seriously a lost cause. You have not successfully argued ONE single point that I’ve made. All you have done is put words in my mouth. It’s really no use talking to somebody whose debating extent is a yo mama joke (wow that’s clever). You have been getting owned the whole time here, I can’t understand why you come back for more. So my advice to you is stick to doing what you do best, sucking dick and acting stupid.
@rmed30
And the next time you call someone a “stupid whore”, it should remind you of Mother’s Day. YOUR mother.that is. Shame on you for letting her walk the streets like that.
@rmed30
Yeah, you’re right. I never heard of Ghandi in my life until you brought him up. I was too busy writing a cover up for the American public on UBL. Our country would be much more educated if we let people like you, Art Bell, Tex Marrs, and Glenn Beck teach us. After all, you have the “real” story. Everyone else is wrong. Far be it from you to be a narcissistic ass who has to be above everyone. I hope you can actually PROVE something and look like less of the asshole that you are.
@Velayasha “An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation. Nor does truth become error because nobody sees it.” -Ghandi. I’d ask you to think about what that means but you probably never had an actual thought in your life; just a continuous stream of brain farts. You probably don’t even know who Ghandi is you dumb cunt. But I guess he was a “conspiracy wacko” too. Find me the name of UBL’s sister or shut the fuck up. You are in way over your head. Class dismissed
@Velayasha And fyi. I don’t think the moon landing was a hoax. Bc we had geological evidence. Evidence examined by scientists of the world over. We also had video of it happening. And photos. And thousands of people at NASA directing it. And hundreds of other documented FACTS! What do we have in the UBL raid? NOTHING. Not one spec of verifiable evidence. No body. No Witnesses. No footage. Only the word of a handful of corrupt, professional liars who cannot even get their story straight.
@Velayasha I never said anything about nurses. Or welfare. Or the moon landing. All YOUR words, in a pathetic attempt to deflect valid, blatant, documented lies and discrepancies. You wan’t to debate? Start by addressing any one of those valid points from documented news articles like the NY times. You are making your self look like an asshole. Don’t try to marginalize thinking people by calling them conspiracy nuts. Especially when they are basing claims on solid ground.
@Velayasha : I’m not a conspiracy nutcase. I’m a patriot. Real patriots ask questions. I’m also not in the custom of lying and fabricating stories. You can’t debate me in any rational context. How bout you account for any of those news articles and discrepancies. How about ONE? If you would do that you would actually have something substantial to say, instead of ad hominem attacks and childish assertions. And don’t put words in my mouth you stupid whore. I never claimed to know the “real truth”
@rmed30
I wouldn’t care if you worked in the field of molecular cheese balls. You’re still a conspiracy nutcase. You probably believe the Moon landing was faked too. And for someone who claims to be smart, you should know that nurses don’t qualify for welfare assistance. People who think they know “the real story”, [you] are always red flags and should be taken with a grain of salt.
@Velayasha When you’re done with that, check out the ORIGINAL AP story of the UBL death on May 1st 2011. The story claims that he was killed by a drone attack on April 23, 2011. Getting the picture yet? Hopefully when you start to come out of your coma, you will want to know how these scams happen. I can answer that for you. Take your mentality, multiply it by 300 million and that = The American public. A lie is a lie. Nothing political about that
@Velayasha When you are done with that article, read the NY times article regarding the DNA test. PR spokesperson claims NOBODY at the hospital has any record of UBL’s sister ever being a patient at Mass Gen Hospital, yet alone giving her DNA to the Feds. They dont even know her NAME. Nobody does! When your done, go through the online archives at the Boston Globe and see if they published one word of UBL’s sister being in Boston. Seems like a pretty big story to me…….nothing there
@Velayasha Maybe if UBL wanted to make videos he would put them on youtube. Instead of leaving them half way around the world in caves for the Feds to find, edit, screen, then show you. Get the fuck out of here! If I was 8 yrs old, I would believe that. Maybe you should watch a little less tv, and read a little more history. Start with the Washington Post where they ran a story where the CIA claimed to make fake tapes of Bin Laden talking about having sex with kids.
@Velayasha Oh Jesus Christ you must be shrooming? What tv show are you talking about where Bin Laden got on camera and claimed responsibility for 911. You are talking about the “confession tape” correct? You know how that tape came to see the light of day. The Pentagon recovered it from a cave in Afghanistan. Or so they say. True story. Same as the last 5 that came from the compound; all scrubed of audio, none of them time stamped. including one of the back of some guy’s head.
@hejcoze : That is so funny! Why do some people think that the burial at sea was in compliance with Islamic tradition (which, CLEARLY, a month later you KNOW that Muslims aren’t buried this way)? And the other people think it was an act of blatant disrespect? The same action…..yet completely opposite responses. That is classic misdirection. Same goes for the 10 different, contradicting stories that came out in the same amount of days. Any luck finding out the name of UBL’s sister from Boston?
dude are you serious??? did bin laden give a nice respectful burial for the 3 thousand plus people that died on 911??? nope…he couldnt give 2 shits about what happend…if the enemy is fighting dirty,.,and we are fighting clean…then forget it…the war is lost…sometimes you gotta lower yourself to thier level and take care of buisness..they hate us..they behead us while alive and kicking…its time the usa starts doing to them what they do to us…then and only then..will they fear us…
@Velayasha truthers don’t hate bush. they just want to know the truth. if wanting to know the truth equates to hating bush, then that tells me all i need to know about bush. don’t compare birthers with truthers. the birther movement is purely political while the truther movement is based on us being skeptical of the official government reports.
@pandala420 you don’t get that there is no way to verify the government’s findings.
@rmed30
I don’t have blind faith in our govt., but to believe this is all some conspiracy would mean Bush, Cheney/ and Bin Laden colluded on 9/11. One has to believe Bush ended the lives of 3000 of his own countrymen and slept like a baby after doing it. You also have to believe that Bin Laden was mentally crazy and just liked copping to mass murder. In the age of 24/7 news cycle and internet, I doubt Obama would be dumb enough to fake Bin Laden’s death. Or want to.
@rmed30
All I have to say is there are Birthers, and there are 9/11 Truthers. One group hates Obama. The other hates Bush. But you 2 aren’t so different from each other. You’re both conspiracy nuts. Even if I was to take as the gospel truth everything you’re saying, one thing would still bother me: What possible motive could Bin Laden have to purposely lie on TV and say he masterminded 9/11….if he didn’t do it!? Especially when it led to more “infidel” occupation of Islamic lands?
@Velayasha : So yeah, when the needle begins to break on the bullshit-o-meter, people get suspicious. In UBL’s case, he was such a despised figure, that nobody gives a damn that what type of fable they are being told. Just like when the US fingered him as a suspect. Nobody gave a damn that there was evidence, they just felt secure that they could put a face to a crime. Happens all the time; look up West Memphis 3 if you wan’t a glimpse into the American psyche when it comes to justice.
@Velayasha : No once again I’m not against military secrecy. What I am against are false flag inducing PR stunts that result in innocent people being put in harms way, here and abroad, to advance the political agenda of a handful of corrupt bureaucrats. Gulf of Tonkin, Guatamala, Iraq…..what do they have in common? All predicated on fairytales that were 10% truth 90% lies that resulted in catastrophic and unnecessary loss of life.
@rmed30
For the sake of argument, let’s say you’re right and we’re not being told the whole truth. I think most people are like me. We don’t trust the government on many things. They still deny Area 51, as if we’re stupid. They still want us to think Lee Harvey Oswald did it. In the case of Bin Laden, we don’t give a damn if they told us he slipped on a bananna peel, into the path of a falling grand piano. He’s fucking dead. If he really was shot in the face, that’s even better.
@rmed30
Since Americans were tax paying citizens in the 1940s, I suppose your average Joe should have been told the coordinates of our troops in Okinawa and Dresden. Nevermind compromising our troops’ lives and the risk of losing the war to the Nazis and Imperial Japan. You need to know because you pay taxes! Why have any military secrets at all?
Al Queda, while not as strong, is just as evil as the Nazis were. Loose lips sink USS Coles. Is that what you want?